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Achilles, Best of the Greeks ([personal profile] refusetofight) wrote2023-11-23 09:22 pm

For @messageforyou

Besides the obvious, there’s one big problem with being dead: it leaves Patroclus with too much time to think. To ruminate. To overanalyze. That was always his tendency, but at least in life, he had Achilles and the war. There was rarely a stretch of stillness that allowed him to wander so deep in the labyrinth of his own thoughts.

Not like Elysium. Patroclus wishes he was more like Ajax, always spoiling for a test of strength against the shades of other legends, or Odysseus, chatting and joking so easily with anyone who will listen. Will they ever tire of it? Meanwhile, Pat still feels like his place here is undeserved. His act of bravery at Troy was a fluke. That wasn’t enough for Elysium; Achilles had to arrange that deal with Hades himself.

And what is he doing with that gift? Whiling it away in a chronically dreadful mood. It’s no surprise Achilles would take another lover. He needs someone more exciting and vibrant. He needs a challenge. Hermes is who he needed from the very start. Powerful, divine, worthy.

Now there’s Lyra, to—a beautiful, perfect child. Hermes can give Achilles anything he wants. What can Patroclus give him? Painful memories. Shame and regret. Achilles never says as much—of course he wouldn’t—but Pat assumes.

He lays sprawled on the spongy ground in the center of a glade, looking up at Ixion and fumbling around the corners of this well-trod maze of thought. Méli has surrounded him in scattered offerings: very fetchable sticks, a sandal, a broken arrow, an old bone. She finally gives up her restless pacing to flop down next to him. She shifts to rest her chin on his chest and sighs emphatically. Her gifts don’t seem to be helping.

“I’m sorry. I’m not good company right now, am I?” he mumbles, stroking her soft ears. He wishes he could be more like her. Living in the moment, not a single worry except what fun will be had next …
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-10 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Lyra notices his pause before talking about his best case scenario, and she suspects that he's not being wholly upfront. But that's okay. He's been very honest with her so far, and grownups have such trouble talking about grownup things. She hopes that even if he won't say it out loud, he at least thinks his best scenario, and he thinks of a plan.

"So... what's your plan if he says he doesn't love you anymore, and what's your plan if he says that he'll always love you?"

Eu-Eu would call this Lyra being sneaky, talking like Patroclus has already decided to ask the question. It's something she's figured out makes it more likely that people will do what she thinks they should. And she really does think that Pat is very sad, and that Achilles will probably say he still loves him, and hopefully that will make Pat less sad.

Lyra curiously explores Patroclus' less prominent calluses, drawing spirals into his palm. His hand isn't so hard as Achilles'. She wonders if Patroclus did much fighting before he died. The songs don't really say much about him before he put on Achilles' armor.
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-10 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
Lyra frowns when he talks about drinking from the Lethe. She knows that there are so many stories of people throwing themselves to their deaths after being rejected by their lovers, but it seems like a very big reaction to her. Perhaps even an overreaction, though the grownups would say that she's too little to know that for sure. But is the Lethe the same as death? Would Patroclus persist after drinking, and be free to make a new, happier afterlife? Or would whatever holds his shade together fade away forever?

Questions to ask Elysium, she figures. Who would know better than Elysium?

"I'd be very sad if you drank from the Lethe," Lyra admits. "But I'll make friends with you again if you forget me. And I'd teach you any games you forgot."

She means it as a reassurance. That if Patroclus really does feel like he has to forget, that she'll still want to be his friend, and she'll still want to spend time with him. And perhaps he'll be happier for her company if his memories don't make him sad.

"My foster dad always says that it's usually not the best or worst thing that happens. It's usually something in the middle." She presses Patroclus' hand to her cheek, looking up at his face and memorizing the lines. He doesn't have many smile lines. He seems so sad. "You should ask him. You're very sad now. And I don't think anyone who loves you can be very happy when you're so sad."
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-11 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Lyra sees the emotion in Patroclus' eyes. Her gut pinches a little in guilt, knowing that she's made him feel so much, but she hopes that it's sweet pain. Sometimes her foster father talks about sweet pain when he comes home crying from the rare days he can catch a tragedy playing at the theater. The proper word is catharsis, but Lyra's noticed her fellow children don't really get that word, so she's taken to calling it sweet pain instead.

She perks as she sees Achilles (her father) emerge from the glades of Elysium. He rests a hand on her head, and she smiles wide at him.

"Hello, Daddy," she says the new title smoothly, just testing it out in her mouth, seeing how she likes it, seeing how he reacts. "You don't have to call me 'child' anymore. I liked it when you called me 'fledgling'."

When she thought about it more, she'd seen the meaning. Hermes is part bird, so she's part bird, so she's a fledgling. It's nice. She doesn't know any other kids who can be called that. She takes Achilles' hand from her head and presses an affectionate kiss to his knuckles. "Pat was taking very good care of me. I wanted to make sure he didn't want me to avoid him, and he said no, and he's very good at petting hair, and it's been really nice."

And she'll give Pat an opportunity to bring up his questions on his own. But she's not above bullying a grown man if she thinks she's right about what he ought to do, and Lyra always thinks she's right.
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-11 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Lyra smiles to be called a fledgling--something she didn't realize she wanted is the little nicknames parents give their children, when her nickname among her foster family is 'trouble'--and she scrunches her nose with a giggle as Pat winks at her.

"I've got all day to get up to mischief," she says smugly, pleased at all the potential the day offers. "But I haven't stolen anything. Even though stealing is fun. Because I think Theseus needs to be mad about his belt for longer."

She can't distract from her first heist by committing a second so soon. She must let Theseus stew in his outrage that someone stole his treasured belt. Maybe wait until he makes another to steal it again. She could have a little collection of stolen belts from Theseus and then give back her treasure hoard when she dies with all the smugness due a hero.

"We've been playing with Méli instead." Lyra playfully bats gently at Méli's thumping tail. "Elysium spilled the secret of how Méli got here and I told Pat before I realized it was supposed to be secret. Sorry."

Lyra gets into trouble, but she only really wants to keep her trouble secret if she means to get into trouble. Now she might as well just tell Achilles that she told on Hermes before Pat says anything. Maybe it'll even prompt an important conversation between Achilles and Pat.
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-12 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
The kiss is nice. Lyra's still smiling as the grownups have their little apologetic exchange. She's not sure why Achilles feels bad about lying, but a lot of grownups don't like lies, even when the lies are for their own good.

If Pat has treated Hermes badly, she has a feeling that he ought to say that directly to Hermes, but she doesn't really know what 'treating him so poorly' means. Maybe he's been mean, or maybe he's just not wanted to spend time with Hermes. Excluding people is its own kind of mean, but sometimes it's better than including them when you don't want to.

Lyra trusts that Achilles will know and say so if Hermes ought to be talked to, so she leaves that to him. Instead, she starts scratching Méli's ears to direct her to cuddle Lyra. Lyra is going to try to be verrrrrry easy to miss while the grownups talk, and make Méli easy to miss too. And only poke Pat if it looks like he won't talk to Achilles as much as he ought to.
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-12 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Lyra thinks she knows what answer Achilles is more likely to give. Grownups don't say sorry to other grownups when they don't care, not like kids trying to get out of trouble.

She hears Pat's hesitation now, which seems sillier now that she's hearing Achilles with him, hearing how he prods at his mood. It reminds her of her brother Thales, and how scared he gets of bad things that might happen, even if they don't happen.

But Lyra loves Thales, even though he's a scaredy-cat who cries easy, and she has tricks for making someone scared of bad things that might happen do what they need to anyway.

She kisses Méli's sweet nose before taking Pat's hand, giving it a squeeze. This could be considered kind and reassuring, were it not for the fact that she also pinches the skin of his hand. Support, and also a light dusting of bullying to get him to spit out what he's gotta ask.
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-13 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
The lesson Lyra chooses to take from this is that bullying grown men is a good thing that she should do more often, as long as it's for their own good.

She doesn't know if this will make all the sad go away from Pat. Probably not. Sadness seems to stick harder to grownups than it does to kids, who shake it off so easy. But maybe it'll make the sad less sticky.

Lyra tips her head to look at Patroclus' face, squeezing his hand again. She doesn't speak, not wanting to pull away Achilles' attention or remind the grownups that she's here. Grownups can be weird about talking about these things in front of kids sometimes. But she also wants to see Patroclus' expression, see if he really believes what Achilles is saying.

He said his plan was to be content if Achilles said he loved him. But Lyra wonders if he can follow through.
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-14 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, good, this has gone well. Lyra should interfere in people’s love lives more often. She smiles as she’s acknowledged, giving a cheerful wave.

“I’m witness!” she confirms with a chirp. “And I’m really good at making judgmental faces when people do dumb things. Just ask my brothers.”

She has the impression of missing context—of course she is, there’s no Hermes here to tell her about his own view on the whole thing, if he’s got an opinion at all—but she’s pretty sure she’s done something good here. Patroclus doesn’t seem so sad anymore. Which has to be a good thing.
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-15 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
Were Lyra older and a little more familiar with the ins and outs of love and its complications, and were she more familiar with Hermes, it probably would bother her more to sit in the awkward space of her father's tangled love life, weighing Patroclus' happiness against Hermes'. It would be easier for her to understand that it may never be possible for Patroclus to be wholly happy when Hermes is in the picture, and Hermes' happiness may inherently cost some of Patroclus'. Interfering in that would be hard for her, if she had a chance to understand adulthood love and knew Hermes well enough to see how fragile his bird heart beats his breast.

But she's not. She's a child, still understanding romance only in theory, and her divine father and the thoughts behind his eyes are still strange and unknown to her. She doesn't know how Patroclus' happiness may come at the cost of Hermes', or vice versa. She just knows that she saw a problem, and now it seems that she's fixed it, and she's quite pleased with herself. Maybe one day she'll look back on this with more discomfort.

"It's okay. You've already made a good impression." She stretches, perfectly relaxed with her head in Pat's lap, and wraps an arm around Méli to snuggle into her fur. "Hermes said good morning to me as a cat. He's a very cute cat with a cute purr. Does he always like to be animals so much?"
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-15 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"Hmm. That's a good point." And she supposes that her family would know who he was even if he only came as a man. And if he was a strange woman coming to their home, that'd be scary in a different way. "A cat is a lot less scary than a god."

It doesn't occur to Lyra that even the mention of Hermes may hurt Pat, convinced as she is that the primary trouble is his relationship with Achilles and that seems mostly settled now. Instead, she takes his change in mood for feeling left out, so she looks up to him to say, "Eu-Eu--that's my foster mother, Eu-Eu--she found us yesterday, and she was very scared that I'd gotten into terrible trouble because she couldn't imagine why else I'd be with a shade and a god. She was very silly about it and bowed on the ground and stuff, and Hermes and Achilles had to be very nice to her so she wouldn't be so scared."

There. Now Pat's in the loop.

"My foster dad didn't believe that we really met a shade and a god. Not until we dug up gold in the field like Hermes said we would. Then he insisted we sacrifice something to Hermes so he could say sorry for doubting him, even though we already sacrificed our goat and only had a chicken left. I hope he liked the chicken."

But that's alright that they sacrificed their last chicken to her foster parents' piety. With the gold, Lyra isn't afraid of her family ever going hungry again.
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-16 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
"He likes sweets?" Ah, a god of taste. Lyra nods thoughtfully. "I'll try to talk them into sacrificing sweets to him instead. But they might think it's insulting."

After all, a little bit of honey or sesame candy is much less valuable than a chicken or goat, and now that they know they have the attention of gods, they'll be scared of seeming impious.

"I tried telling them that Hermes is very nice and I don't think he'd mind that my foster father didn't believe us when we said what happened at first, but they say better to be safe than sorry." Lyra gives an exaggerated shrug and a shake of the head, almost as if she were the adult marveling at their paranoid foolishness. "They're being silly 'cuz they're scared. Maybe they won't be so scared once they see no one's turning them into a frog for not sacrificing enough."

Oh, turning into a frog. There's an idea. Maybe Lyra should ask Hermes to turn her into a frog after he turns her into a snake.
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-17 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Lyra blinks in surprise, distracted from fantasies of being a frog. “Already?”

That was fast. But maybe these things just go quickly—you learn you have famous divine dads one day, then the next you’re whisked away to be taught by a stranger.

She frowns in consideration. “When would I have to go?” She considers more for a beat. “And what will I learn?”

If her dads send her away from her family just to learn how to weave, she might cry from boredom. That seems to be what most demigod girls do in the stories.
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[personal profile] messageforyou 2023-12-18 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Her suitability? Lyra perks at the thought. She hadn't thought there were many women out there who could teach her more than Achilles knew. Unless they're talking about a goddess? Or a hero?

Interest piqued, Lyra leans her head into Achilles' touch and considers. Yes, she does want to go off and learn new things with a mysterious lady teacher, but the thought of leaving her family gives her a little pang in her heart. How strange. In all her dreams of adventure and exploring, she had never considered how sad she might be to leave what she already loves behind.

"After you and Hermes decide, may I have a week with my foster family before I go? There's lots of people in the town to say goodbye to." Lots of fishermen who only come in a few times a week, lots of merchants who come in and out, lots of familiar trees and hills and roads to bid farewell. Lyra wants to make sure she doesn't forget anyone, because even if she can write letters to them one day, they'll only be able to respond if the messenger can read the letters to them and write what they dictate.

"And... how will we stay in touch?" She takes Achilles' hand in hers, squeezing with a frown. "Will the teacher be far enough away that I can't walk back here? Will Hermes bring me back sometimes? Or write letters with me to bring to you?"

She's only just met her mortal father. She doesn't want to leave him so quick, nor does she want to leave Patroclus. Patroclus who seems suspiciously quiet about this subject.

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